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  Anyone interested in sending your name to Mars.

  by James Mixon in

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  2. friends

  nasa will upload the registered names to a dime-size chip and secure it to the insight lander deck, the last day to submit your name nov. 1st 2017.. enjoythesilence.today/2017/10/03/nasa-offers-program-send-your-name-mars/.

  yes i will send in my name and when i get to paradise i can tell those that are resurrected, you see that planet there my name is up there.i know it's hard to believe but our buddy adam didn't have a clue what was out there,the poor guy didn't realize there was a large village two miles down the road.. ok maybe i won't make it to paradise but a guy can dream crazy thoughts.....but seriously you can send your name to mars..

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  My shiny new wife and I both signed up. See y'all aboard!
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  "exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

  you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

  you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

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  If you don't want to back the author again, don't. If you don't want to buy a copy of either book, don't. Simple as that.

  Can't blame someone for asking his affinity community for support, but no one should be surprised if some find it self-serving and opportunistic. Distasteful as some may view it, there's no reason he can't ask, and I don't think anyone should berate him for it. Just don't give if you don't want to.
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  My Mothers Ultimate Rejection

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.

  i found this on her desk.

  this is jehovah's witnesses.

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  It must have been gut wrenching to find this note, especially when you intended to leave a peace offering of your own. I am so sorry you have to deal with this. I admire your strength and resolve to just carry on the best you can. I know I would be devastated...
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  Conversation with an Exorcist

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  starbucks exorcist______________.

  location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 9 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: gadfly, writer /crow apologist, big mouth know-it-alledgar the crow: spawn of satan________________.

  our scene begins with two men at separate tables working on their laptops.lou is a man of about 60. he recently moved from new york to texas to start his own videography business.

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  Hilarious! Terry, your stories keep getting better and better. Keep 'em comin'...
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  JW critically injured after being electrocuted in assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a newspaper reports that in bornem, belgium, a jw volunteer was critically injured after being electrocuted:.

  bornem - a man was electrocuted while performing maintenance on a high voltage installation in the assembly hall of jw in bornem friday afternoon.

  the man was critically injured.. possibly the man, who is a volunteer with the jw, tried to clean the installation with a vacuum cleaner.

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  I feel bad for this man and his family that he got hurt while volunteering to serve Kingdom Watchtower interests.

  With most "worldly" organizations, they would be jumping through hoops to make sure he got the best medical care and didn't suffer financial loss, even if their main motivation was to try to avoid a costly lawsuit. With the Society, though, you can bet he is being "encouraged" to use his own insurance, if he has any. The Brothers™ will also "lovingly" point out that it would hurt "Kingdom interests" and bring reproach on the J-dog's name if he were to sue his "brothers" in a worldly court.

  I can hear it now... "Brother Geezer, what a grand witness it would be if you upheld the Bible principle that "each one must carry his own load." (Gal. 6:5, Romans 14:12) Why, the Brothers may even decide to grant you credit for your missed field service hours! What a loving provision from Jehovah!"

  Cheap, self-serving bastards! I hope he sues, gets a huge settlement, and wills it to his worldly relatives. Or, if he dies, his worldly family sues and collects big bucks. That, my friends, would be poetic justice.
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  Return of the Dub (plus surprise guest)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  return of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.

  two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?

  that’s how the day was spent.

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  Thanks for that update, Terry. You did a great job of conveying the gist of the whole encounter. It felt like I was right there with you, and I appreciate your sharing all this with us.

  Not to pile it on too thick, but my hat's off to you for being so quick on your feet and keeping the conversation going your way despite Brother Bill's best efforts to seize control. Just like your first visit with Cheerful Earl, you did a masterful job with this one, too.

  And now for the bad news... I can practically guarantee that Earl will be instructed in no uncertain terms that he is NOT to visit you again. Brother Bill (who is almost certainly an elder, if not a circuit overseer or some other "heavy") obviously already suspects you are an apostate, a disfellowshipped person playing them for sport, or some other version of spiritual enemy with his own agenda. At the very least, he has decided you're only wasting their time, ulterior motives or not, and that you're clearly not a good prospect for a "Bible Study."

  And if I may offer another prediction... if Brother Bill is sufficiently curious or suspicious, he will follow up on that friend you probably shouldn't have named. Under the 6 degrees of separation principle, everybody knows somebody who knows somebody, etc., etc. If he asks around enough, it is inevitable that someone will remember your friend, and that will lead to more questions (whatever happened to...), and eventually someone will put two and two together and you will be unmasked and cast as a "dangerous and angry apostate using clever words and smooth talk to entrap the unwary." Like I said before, it's entirely possible that your home will be listed as a Do Not Call. That would actually be a tribute to you, but it would also cut into your entertaining and educational verbal sparring opportunities. More's the pity...

  Anyway, thanks again for sharing your visits with Cheerful Earl. You're a gifted storyteller, and I always want to read more.
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  The Dub At My Door (is back for Return Visit)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the dub at my door ___________________i’d rather have a root canal than agree to a sit down with an active jehovah’s witness.i’m an ex-jw.

  for good reason.

  fool me once....i’m an activist and an author of a book or two exposing and vilifying the destructive jw cult organization.yet i agreed.

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  Masterful job, Terry! You handled the entire situation just right. Hopefully, he will actually think about your conversation and draw his own conclusions without undue influence from others with their own agenda.

  I suspect, though, that if he's been a JW very long, he will tell his friends and maybe even his elders about this most unusual RV. If it comes to light that you were ever a JW, he'll be warned away from "that dangerous apostate who uses clever words to undermine your faith." He'll be assured that the Devil is backing you and whispering in your ear what to say, the better to confuse and beguile the unwary.

  If they don't yet suspect that you were once a JW, he might very well might come back with a more experienced "brother," maybe even the Circuit Overseer, who they imagine will be able to keep up with you and overcome your misguided reasoning. When that inevitably fails, I'd bet dollars to donuts he'll never come back again. Heck, your house may even be put on the Do Not Call list. Can't have smooth talking demons in disguise taking advantage of the flock, can we?

  I truly hope you can liberate another poor soul from bondage to ignorance and superstition the Watchtower. Good luck, and please keep us posted.
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  Another Hollywood Memory

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another hollywood memory____________________“thanks for the pink chablis, marta.

  who’s that singing?

  sounds familiar.”.

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  Another great story, Terry! Thanks. I know some folks find it hard to believe that not EVERY fun and relaxed interaction between a man and a woman HAS to end up with mattress thrashing.

  I really liked the song, too. It now proudly resides in my walking-at-the-mall playlist. Some kinds of (what passes for) jazz sound rather frantic to me and can be tiring to listen to, but this was just right. Thanks again.
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  Watchtower Coercion of Non-JWs

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it is widely known that the watchtower coerces compliance with its deadly blood dogma.

  a less known fact is that this pressure is further extended to non-believing family members of jw's.

  a new story at ajwrb recounts how jw elders nearly cost the life of one unbeliever when he fell gravely anemic.

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  When my (at the time) father-in-law was in the hospital with his final illness, one of the reasons the doctors couldn't give him the surgery that might have extended his life was that he refused to accept the almost inevitably necessary blood transfusions it would entail.

  Mind you, he was never a JW, not even particularly favorable toward their beliefs. I'd say it was more like he was tolerant out of an effort to maintain peace with his wife, who has a strong-willed if not domineering personality. Many in the family believed it was she that really "ran the show," and that he was pretty much under her thumb. Once in a while, he'd "get his back up" and stand up to her, but most of the time, he'd just give a resigned sigh and yield to her.

  Anyway, I went to see him in the hospital and had a nice talk with him, mostly about non-controversial things like family and old times. I then told him what my dad, who had been a Congregation Servant since the 50's and an Elder since that arrangement came out in the 70's, told his own non-JW brother. He told his brother that he would think no less of him if he took blood, and that to refuse blood because of what someone else thought would be pointless. He stressed that he had never been baptized, never claimed to be a Witness, and therefore had no duty to take a position that he'd never accepted before and that he had serious reservations about anyway.

  So I told "Grandpa" that he should only refuse blood if he himself believed it was wrong, and NOT because "Grandma" thought it was wrong, or what she might say to him if he did take it. I told him that refusing blood because he didn't want to disappoint some else by violating a belief THEY had but he didn't share was ridiculous. Then we moved on to other things and I left on very good terms with him.

  "Grandma" sent word that I was not to visit "Grandpa" in the hospital anymore because I was "pressuring him to take a blood transfusion." I just replied that I didn't take my orders from "Grandma," and that I'd visit him whenever I could and say whatever I wanted. When I said that I'd only told him what my dad had told his own brother, I didn't hear any more about it.

  It turned out that all this drama was a moot point. The doctors said it was an extremely risky and complicated procedure anyway, and he would not have been able to survive it at that point even if blood transfusions had been an option. He died a few days later.

  "Grandma" insisted on a Witness funeral, and they played up how supportive he was even though he never got baptized and went to very few meetings. They completely omitted any reference to his other fine attributes and accomplishments, or even that he was a World War II GI in the Pacific. No mention whatsoever.

  Did I mention that I HATE this blanking cult?
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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  That video is heartbreaking and disgusting at the same time!

  I truly despise the organization that would encourage demand such an aberration of natural affection by a child. She is too young to fully understand what she's doing, and what they're doing to her. It's even worse that they subtly reinforce that manipulation with public praise. That will make it ever harder for her to reconsider the unloving and unreasonable position she's been brainwashed into taking, even once she sees behind the curtain.

  That poor little girl! I feel so sorry for her. She has no idea what she's really in for down the road...